It contains some extra garou/mage fluff that could potentially be a spoiler if you just know Hunter.Īs for the blackmail, if it is such that you can identify the shifter (that is, they are still human enough at that point to be recognized) but it's clear there is transforming, giving that to Pentex (super-company run by the Wyrm) or the Technocracy (Mage 'villains' who secretly run the civilized world and try to destroy the supernatural ('sides themselves, who they don't see as supernatural)) could be a death warrant. I'm putting the below (which are my thoughts on how blackmail could work) in spoilers. I do think Hunters are only immune if Second Sight is active. But I think that could've been a houserule. Or, well, we had to spend a point of Willpower or succeed on a Willpower roll (our choice) to avoid Delirium. In the Mage game I was in, garou did cause Delirium in mages. But personally I dislike that 'force' being active in the world. If the Veil part is being held to, it might be that the picture fades or just circumstances cause them (or their digital copies) to deteriorate such that it no longer exists. No real justification for it it just happens. For some others, though (Mummy, I think Wraith), it just states that there is a 'Veil' that makes normal people forget. (Also see my spoiler at the bottom of this post.) In WoD Mage, Vampire, and Werewolf, there is (in my opinion) a good reason why the supernatural is not well known to humans: garou naturally make people forget due to the genetic memory of being slaughtered, and mages and vampires actively cover it up (as well as the universe naturally undoing what mages do via Paradox). In WoD, humans do rationalize away the supernatural, so it still probably wouldn't convince a lot of people, but it could convince some. If the picture continues to exist, I think it would work. So there may be multiple readings, especially between different editions. Thanks in advance to anyone who goes out of their way to looking this up for me - this obscure bit or lore was driving me crazy thumbing through old game books like a madman, but I came up with nothing definitive.įor some White Wolf books, the books directly contradict each other and sometimes themselves (Mage states both that all spells are line-of-sight and that line-of-sight instead of touch requires Correspondence 2, for example). So who's got their facts wrong here? Is this something that depends on your edition of the game or what?Īlso, on a related note, are Willworkers subject to Delirium? Again, our resident rules-lawyer says yes, our GM says no (just for convenience sake, he ignores it), but 1st ed Mage agrees with our GM (although I checked them, I couldn't find out where exactly it states in later editions what the deal is, it's possible that later ed Mage contradicts or retcons it). However, I just happened across the White Wolf Wiki which stated in no uncertain terms that recordings do not cause Delirium. The plan was to use this as blackmail material to get the local pack to lay off on us - the details are not relevant, since my character died before being able to execute this plan, but OOC my fellow players convinced me that it would not have worked anyway since even photographs or video recordings of Crinos-form werewolves still incite Delirium. So, in a Hunter game, my character snapped a photo of a werewolf mid-transformation. Giving two new talent options for 75.Okay, trivia check for any old WoD Playgrounders. Fire mages always have molten armor on.įrostfire Bolt-> Removed from Fire/Frostįlamestrike-> Removed, neglected spell.Īrcane Brilliance-> Passive to raid, with all other class buffs.īrain Freeze/Pyromaniac-> Removed, I can see this based on the current implication to make Mage bombs spec specific and put all three of them into one talent. Anticipated list:Īrmor spells-> passive based on spec, ie. We know our talent trees are getting a dramatic update so i'll leave that whole section alone and just focus on spells we currently have and may move around accordingly. Priests lost psychic scream apparently.Įdit: Based on popular opinion it seems that most of our changes will be more of spec specific removal then total removal. Just as the title says, with blizz saying 20% lost across the board what will mages loose do you think? They have said they want to drop rotation spells and cc related.
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